tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-829570931882245246.post4903611000228312727..comments2024-03-26T08:22:23.744-04:00Comments on Glenshee Equestrian Centre: Stupid StudyUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-829570931882245246.post-87446246422344645812013-06-13T01:23:15.480-04:002013-06-13T01:23:15.480-04:00Horse riding is one of those activities that move ...Horse riding is one of those activities that move quickly from being a hobby to becoming a real passion. Horse activities have been shown to benefit children, people with disabilities and those who need to gain confidence in their athletic abilities. <br /><br /><b><a href="http://www.horserides.net/horseback-riding-bryce-canyon/" rel="nofollow">Horse Riding Bryce Canyon</a></b> horseridesnetushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02628622214551927930noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-829570931882245246.post-40951791190325212912012-12-07T01:13:36.991-05:002012-12-07T01:13:36.991-05:00We are the mirror of the horses. They follow what ...We are the mirror of the horses. They follow what they see and hear in us. If we try to assess that study in this point of view, that is really weird. It defies the essence of <a href="http://www.saltriverhorsemanship.com.au/horsemanship/" rel="nofollow">horsemanship</a> in totality. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-829570931882245246.post-84027465118928109122012-10-22T13:56:09.064-04:002012-10-22T13:56:09.064-04:00i'm glad i'm not the only one who thought ...i'm glad i'm not the only one who thought it seemed counterintuitive :-\ i'm not sure what they were trying to prove either...jmehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04295140724737185132noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-829570931882245246.post-89564787343122163462012-10-22T12:55:56.455-04:002012-10-22T12:55:56.455-04:00Even the basic concept that a nervous person would...Even the basic concept that a nervous person would be calming to a horse defies all logic. That applies to any horse in any situation.<br /><br />I'm not certain what they are trying to accomplish with such a nonsense "study".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-829570931882245246.post-11690024583510515672012-09-17T10:21:23.504-04:002012-09-17T10:21:23.504-04:00hi val,
thanks for stopping by and commenting! it...hi val,<br />thanks for stopping by and commenting! it sounds like you're in a better position to evaluate this study than me, so i appreciate your input. it makes a lot of sense. they should have had you design the study! but then, they might not have gotten the results they seemed determined to arrive at...jmehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04295140724737185132noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-829570931882245246.post-11923337053610006282012-09-16T20:46:12.638-04:002012-09-16T20:46:12.638-04:00Came here late, but found this a very interesting ...Came here late, but found this a very interesting post.<br /><br />I looked at the link you included. Only draft-type horses were tested, so IF their conclusions hold any water, they only apply to that type of horse. I doubt a more hot-blooded breed would behave the same way.<br /><br />I am a certified therapeutic riding instructor. We select horses for lessons who are by nature aloof. Draft horses can usually fulfill this requirement. The therapy horse is trained to listen to the handler, a leader in front of the horse. The leader remains calm and reassuring no matter what unexpected behaviors arise from the rider. The horse is calm because of the handler and in spite of the "nervous" or "reactive" rider. I think that this study was flawed in method, because the person in the middle was not asking the horse to do anything. Horses read intent. They knew that the person was just a pawn. I bet they would respond very differently if a handler was asked to give the horse a task while behaving nervously or calmly. There could have been a hidden variable responsible for the data they described. It is hard to say without having the method outline.<br /><br />I have never seen a nervous person create calmness in a horse, but I have seen a nervous person make a horse nervous and I have seen a calm person keep a horse calm.Valhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07335385366138424092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-829570931882245246.post-471093324916171142012-07-30T20:12:26.261-04:002012-07-30T20:12:26.261-04:00Ps, just switched up the comment format, so we'...Ps, just switched up the comment format, so we'll see how it goes. Sorry for the mess! ;-)jmehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04295140724737185132noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-829570931882245246.post-36056977448090659062012-07-30T19:58:37.051-04:002012-07-30T19:58:37.051-04:00GHM - couldn't agree more. I also wondered wh...GHM - couldn't agree more. I also wondered why they didn't try it without the blindfolds too... The whole setup was just weird. Not the study I would have done.jmehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04295140724737185132noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-829570931882245246.post-74849211768111307512012-07-30T18:22:22.021-04:002012-07-30T18:22:22.021-04:00There is no way a nervous tense human can have a c...There is no way a nervous tense human can have a calming effect on a horse. It works just the opposite. From personal experience I can attest to the fact that if a horse is tense, nervous and perhaps on the verge of blowing up the worst thing you as a rider can do is mirror those same feelings. In doing so you'll only validate what the horse is feeling and the whole situation will exacerbate. No one is the winner in a situation like that. <br /><br />A rider/handler can get so much more accomplished by remaining calm and trying to help the horse realize there is nothing to worry about. It's up to the rider/handler to talk the horse off the ledge so to speak. <br /><br />Everyone who has been around herds of horses can also attest to the fact that when one horse is on high alert it tends to set the rest of them off. I've seen the whole herd gallop home because one of them spooked. Anyway, this was a stupid study and I feel you're right about them setting it up to verify what they wanted it to.Grey Horse Mattershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05837575441967937196noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-829570931882245246.post-86437873687501378332012-07-30T17:24:28.005-04:002012-07-30T17:24:28.005-04:00LuvMyTBs- Thank you! So well said :-)
(btw, i d...LuvMyTBs- Thank you! So well said :-)<br /><br />(btw, i didn't summarize the whole study, but there is an article about the "research" they did if you follow the link)jmehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04295140724737185132noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-829570931882245246.post-38559207213860448892012-07-30T17:18:30.183-04:002012-07-30T17:18:30.183-04:00Kate - I love that quote. That's exactly my e...Kate - I love that quote. That's exactly my experience, and what I try to keep in mind with my approach to riding and training.jmehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04295140724737185132noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-829570931882245246.post-5075251011406677312012-07-30T16:49:17.447-04:002012-07-30T16:49:17.447-04:00I don't know what study you are talking about ...I don't know what study you are talking about but I do know horse and herd behavior very well. I was also a pretty accomplished rider in my day and despite age,replacement parts and arthritus can still ride very well.<br />From the earliest riding lessons as a child I was always told before getting on a horse, any horse, that my mind had to be right and ready to do so. I was also taught and trained that my fears,anxieties, anger, etc. transferred directly from me and into the horse.Calm,quiet, kind and respectful were my key focus areas as a young rider and as I excelled I was also taught and learned a great deal about confidence, compassion,courage, reward and punishment with very little emphasis on the punishment unless it was directly related to herd dynamics and behavior so the horse would clearly understand.As I approach 60 years old I am glad I had good teachers and GREAT horses.<br /><br />I learned the most from "the bad horses" as not only did they make me a better rider I also learned a most valuable life lesson. There are very few bad horses and a whole lot more bad people who cause these " stupid studies" in the first place.LuvMyTBshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02535739190335276089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-829570931882245246.post-82361227696940503342012-07-30T15:22:55.262-04:002012-07-30T15:22:55.262-04:00It does sound like a completely stupid study. Hor...It does sound like a completely stupid study. Horses look to us for leadership, and if we're calm and not worried, neither are they. If we're tense or nervous, so are they. I've had the same experience as you in how to calm down a nervous horse - breathing deeply and calmly really helps. One of my favorite Mark Rashid quotes is "your horse spooked, you spooked and you ran off together" the point being that if you hadn't tensed up after your horse spooked, the horse would have calmed right down in most cases.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com